And so we unfortunately come to the final part of dinner with Phil Walker-Harding, Sushi master, Gizmologist, and Bärentrainer. Today we bounce around the subject of newer games, roll and writes, and legacy style games.

Welcome back to dinner with Shem Phillips, founder of Garphill Games and New Zealand’s preeminent board game designer. Shem is best known for his trilogies of games, the North Sea Trilogy (Shipwrights, Raiders and Explorers) and the West Kingdom Trilogy (Architects, Paladins and Viscounts). Shem and I are just chilling over pies… Mmmm, pies…