Luch continues on a beautiful fall day in Indianapolis. I am eating a burrito with Isaac Childres, designer of Havens, both Gloomy and Frosted. The tortilla wrapped goodness is shedding the last of its delicious innards, and talk turns to success.

Welcome back to dinner with Shem Phillips, founder of Garphill Games and New Zealand’s preeminent board game designer. Shem is best known for his trilogies of games, the North Sea Trilogy (Shipwrights, Raiders and Explorers) and the West Kingdom Trilogy (Architects, Paladins and Viscounts). Shem and I are just chilling over pies… Mmmm, pies…