Welcome back to an amazing breakfast with designer Luke Laurie and publisher Peter Vaughan. The chaos of KublaCon has just about ended, and the three of us are at Pete’s Cafe (no relation) in Millbrae, California, talking deeply and metaphyscially about game design.

I am lucky enough to be eating a nice brunch in a lovely diner with Dominion and Kingdom Builder designer Donald X Vaccarino. My food is nearly gone, and Dominion design questions are flying. Unfortunately, Donald’s storytelling and my rapt attention are not allowing quite enough time for my guest to eat.