For those of you just tuning in, I am having a lovely meal of New Zealand pies virtually with master game designer Shem Philips. The mad devouring of baked goods is slowing, and talk is flowing around game design and candy. Don’t worry, I also ate a fruit – it’s all healthy now.

Matt Leacock and I get to continue talking about game development, Pandemic, and Era: Medieval Age in the most amazing Greek restaurant ever. And people bring us food. What could be better?

I met Matt Leacock at Evvia, a wonderful Greek restaurant in downtown Palo Alto, a veritable melting pot of the techno-elite and hipster-weird. Matt is, of course, synonymous with co-op game design, having created the classic Pandemic in its many and varied forms, both legacy and otherwise.